Thomas Frank/ John Smith Descendants


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18. Helen Elizabeth SMITH [4284] (John SMITH12, Martha FRANK9, Samuel7, Peter2, Thomas1) was born on 11 Sep 1824 and died on 6 Mar 1873 at age 48.

General Notes: In a Journal kept by Harriette Anne Smith, her Sister, Harriette said:-
Helen Elizabeth, born Sept. 15, 1824 married Charles Bromley Bates of March [Cambs.], Nov: 24, 1849. She died March 6th, 1875, leaving 6 children:
Mary Helen, b. March 11th, 1849.
John Charles, b. Oct. 29th, 1851.
Elizabeth Rogers, b. May 15th, 1855.
Frederick William, b. April 20th, 1857.
Caroline Smith, born & died, 1859.
Herbert Bromley, b. March 9th, 1866.

Helen married Charles Bromley BATES [4288] [MRIN: 2699] on 24 Nov 1849. Charles was born on 22 Aug 1820 in March Cambridgeshire England.

Children from this marriage were:

+ 45 M    i. John Charles BATES [11967] was born on 11 Mar 1849 and died on 17 Oct 1887 at age 38.

   46 F    ii. Mary Helen BATES [11966] was born on 29 Oct 1851 in March Cambridgeshire England.

   47 F    iii. Elizabeth Rogers BATES [11968] was born on 15 May 1855.

Elizabeth married George James DIXON [11973] [MRIN: 5232], son of Rev. J. DIXON [12645] and Unknown, on 5 Apr 1883. George was born in Upleatham Yorkshire England.

+ 48 M    iv. Frederick William BATES [11969] was born on 20 Apr 1857.

   49 F    v. Caroline Smith BATES [11970] was born in 1859 and died in 1859.

   50 M    vi. Herbert Bromley BATES [11971] was born on 9 Mar 1866.

Herbert married Emma CLARKE [11972] [MRIN: 5231].

19. Harriette Anne SMITH [4285] (John SMITH12, Martha FRANK9, Samuel7, Peter2, Thomas1) was born on 8 Jul 1826 in March Cambridgeshire England and died on 5 Aug 1900 in 9 Lyndhurst Road Hampstead London England at age 74.

General Notes: Census: 1881, 64 Fellows Road, Hampstead, Middx.



Harriette married Edward Henry EDWARDS [4289] [MRIN: 2700], son of Edward EDWARDS [11974] and Margaret [11975], on 26 Apr 1855. Edward was born on 3 Dec 1826 in Chester Cheshire England, was christened on 28 Dec 1826 in St Oswald's Chester Cheshire England, and died on 10 Jan 1903 at age 76.

General Notes: Notes for EDWARD HENRY EDWARDS:

Edwards & Jones, 161 Regent Street, "By Appointment" Leather goods, silver, Jewellery & antiques/
after 1881 census/ shopman-fancytrade

Chester

Henry Edwards ? Managing Clerk - solicitors
Head Verger of Cathredal
2 sons 7 girls
City treasurer of Chester?

More About EDWARD HENRY EDWARDS:
Census 1: 1881, 64 Fellows Road, Hampstead, Middx.
Census 2: 1901, 9 Lyndhurst Road, Hampstead, London
Christening: December 28, 1826, St. Oswalds, Chester, Cheshire, England1
Occupation: Bet. 1857 - 1881, Stationer, employing 11 assistants & 5 boys
Residence: 1857, 161 Regent St., St. James, Westminster, Middx.


Children from this marriage were:

   51 M    i. William Henry EDWARDS [11977] was born on 4 Apr 1856 in Westminster Middlesex England.

+ 52 M    ii. John Frederick EDWARDS [11978] was born on 26 Aug 1857 in 161 Regent Street St James Westminster Middlesex England and died on 31 Jan 1940 in 62 Lemsford Road St Albans Hertfordshire England at age 82.

   53 M    iii. Charles Alfred EDWARDS [11976] was born on 6 Apr 1859 and died in 1936 at age 77.

Charles married Alice Susan COLLARD [11984] [MRIN: 5234], daughter of Daniel James CALLARD [12646] and Unknown, on 30 Sep 1886.

Charles next married Gwendoline [12647] [MRIN: 5464].

   54 M    iv. Arthur Rogers EDWARDS [11979] was born on 24 Nov 1860 in Hampstead London England and died in Jun 1938 in Ivy Cottage Crablands Selsey Sussex England at age 77.

General Notes: Arthur was educated at a private boarding school in Birmingham. His parents apprenticed him to the woolen trade, but from youth his great interest had been in objects of art and antiquity, on which he became an authority. He started in the antique business on his own account and at the time of his retirement had a well known and successful establishment in Wigmore Street, London.

Antiques Dealer, succesful

Cumberland Terrace, Regents Park, married Edith governess Baron Children
Financial disaster Selsey! Edith sold all antiques. Christian scientist.

died with little money

More About ARTHUR ROGERS EDWARDS:
Census 1: 1881, 64 Fellows Road, Hampstead, Middx.
Census 2: 1891, 56 Fellows Road, Hampstead
Census 3: 1901, 9 Lyndhurst Road, Hampstead, London
Occupation 1: 1881, Woolen Draper's Assistant
Occupation 2: 1901, Dealer in Furniture

Arthur married Edith Henrietta SAMPSON [11985] [MRIN: 5235]. Edith was born on 6 Oct 1875 and died on 5 Sep 1960 at age 84.

+ 55 F    v. Jessie Harriette EDWARDS [11980] was born on 24 Aug 1862 in Hampstead London England and died in 1937 at age 75.

+ 56 F    vi. Helen Mary EDWARDS [11981] was born on 24 May 1864 in Hampstead London England and died after 1940.

   57 M    vii. George Herbert EDWARDS [11982] was born on 29 Oct 1865 and died on 19 Apr 1866.

+ 58 F    viii. Annie Gertrude EDWARDS [11983] was born on 22 Sep 1867 in Hampstead London England and died in Jul 1939 at age 71.

22. John Stanger SMITH [2652] (John SMITH12, Martha FRANK9, Samuel7, Peter2, Thomas1) was born on 2 Jul 1833 in probably Parish of Doddington Cambridgeshire, died on 9 Sep 1915 in probably in March Cambridgeshire at age 82, and was buried in probably in March Cambridgeshire.

General Notes: SEARCH NOTES:

BIRTH, MARRIAGE and DEATH Dates are from Family Information provided by "Betty" SPENDER. MARRIAGE Ref. (from G.R.O. Records) is 3B 516. John and Emma were married in St.Ives, HUNTS. Date and Ref. re-confirmed May 24, 1988.
NEXT STEPS:
1. Confirm MARRIAGE Ref. No. as above. OK, May 24.
2. Confirm BIRTH and DEATH Dates in G.R.O. Records (Birth is prior to G.R.O. Records.)
3. Apply for BIRTH, MARRIAGE and DEATH? Certs. Written to Colin Ulph, May 24, 1988, with Ref. No. for John's Marriage to Emma Ulph. Have also asked that Colin apply to Cambs. Record Office for Birth Certificate for John.
4. Check 1861 Census Records for Witchford, CAMBS. Witchford 1861 Census Records, Ref. No. 542741, ordered from Mormon Library, Greenwich, Apr.23,88
.5. Since it has now been established that the Family were living in March in Nov. 1862, at the time of Arthur's Birth, then now search March Census for 1861.Also, since John was living in March in 1860, when he was married, then search 1851 Census for March. Furthermore, since Colin Ulph has recorded Birth Details (and ref. Nos.) for Maude Smith, born Sep.Q, 1866; and a Janet Clara Smith, born Sep.Q, 1868, both of which are recorded in N.Witchford, then it is reasonable to check the 1871 Census as well. ... H.U.SMITH. Apr.22/May 24/Jul.26, 1988.

1861 Census shows as follows:
Census Return April 7, 1861. (PRO Microfilm RG/9/1043-4)

at High Street [81?], March. ...
NAME AGE POSITION BORN

John S. SMITH 27 Miller & Merchant March.
Emma SMITH [nee Ulph] 22 Wife St. Ives, HUNTS. ...
Alice M. SMITH 1 Mth. Daughter March.
Rebecca WILSON 17 Domestic Servant March.

John married Emma N ULPH [26] [MRIN: 29], daughter of John Birt ULPH [2358] and Mary Louisa BISHOP [2114], on 17 May 1860 in St Ives Huntingdonshire England. Emma was born on 21 Mar 1839 in St Ives Huntingdonshire England, died on 2 Mar 1899 in Nr. Witchford Cambridgeshire England at age 59, and was buried in Nr. Witchford Cambridgeshire England.

General Notes: SEARCH NOTES:

Birth Reference for Emma is XIV 195, 1Q 1839. Emma's Birth Certificate was received July 26, 1988.

NEXT STEPS:
1. Ask Colin if he has BIRTH, MARRIAGE (see Ref. above) and DEATH Ref. Nos. Do not worry now.
2. If not Confirm Dates in G.R.O. Index. OK, May 24, 1988.
3. Apply for BIRTH, MARRIAGE and DEATH Certs. Written to Colin Ulph, May 24, 1988 with Ref. Nos. for Emma's Birth and Marriage to John S. Smith. Received July 26, 1988.
H.U.SMITH. Apr.22/May 24,1988.
For St.Ives & Witchford, See Shell Road Atlas of GB. P41, D11 & P43, H1..


Children from this marriage were:

   59 F    i. Alice May SMITH [3562] was born on 7 Mar 1861 in 81 High Street March Cambridgeshire.

+ 60 M    ii. Arthur Ulph SMITH [3529] was born on 10 Nov 1862 in High Street March Cambridgeshire England, died about 1938 in a "Sally" Army Home. Location unknown about age 76, and was buried about 1938.

   61 F    iii. Edith Emma SMITH [3563] was born about 1864 in March Cambridgeshire England and died on 16 Jun 1866 about age 2.

General Notes: Geoffrey Stanger, in his letter, rec'd Aug. 8, 1989, gives details of Edith's Burial in the Station Road Cemetery in March. A description of the tomb can be found in the Notes on her Grand- Father, John Smith. Details of her Inscription is as follows: On the South Vertical Face (of the Tomb): IN

LOVING MEMORY OF ERNEST STANGER WHO DIED OCT 17th 1865 AGED 5 MTHS AND EDITH
EMMA WHO DIED JUNE 16th 1866 AGED 2 YRS CHILDREN OF JOHN STANGER AND EMMA SMITH H.U.SMITH, AUG. 11, 1989.

   62 M    iv. Ernest Stanger SMITH [3564] was born about May 1865 in March Cambridgeshire England and died on 17 Oct 1865.

General Notes: Geoffrey Stanger, in his letter, rec'd Aug. 8, 1989, gives details of his Burial in the Station Road Cemetery in March. A description of the Tomb can be found in the Notes on his Grand-Father, John Smith. The Inscription reads as follows: On the East Gable End:

IN LOVING MEMORY OF ERNEST STANGER WHO DIED OCT 17th 1865 AGED 5 MTHS AND EDITH EMMA WHO DIED JUNE 16th 1866 AGED 2 YRS CHILDREN OF JOHN STANGER AND EMMA SMITH H.U.SMITH, AUG. 11, 1989.

+ 63 F    v. Maude Bishop ULPH-SMITH [3565] was born on 11 Jun 1866 in March Cambridgeshire England and died btw 1946 and 1952 at age 80.

   64 F    vi. Janet Clara STANGER-SMITH [3566] was born on 11 Jun 1868 and died about 1955 about age 87.

General Notes: Was Janet, Janet Clara Smith, born N.Witchford, Sep.Q, 1868, ref. 3b.595, as indicated in letter from Colin Ulph, July 26, 1988. Check 1871 Census for March; and if likely, apply for Birth Cert. H.U.SMITH, July 26, 1988. ...

In a Letterfrom Margaret Currie to A.J.U.S, she mentions visiting Aunts Maude & Janet in Tunbridge Wells in August, 1947.

In a copy of Harriet Anne Smith's Diary, she says Janet was born June 11th, 1868.

+ 65 M    vii. John Hubert Stanger SMITH [3567] was born on 18 Feb 1870.

   66 M    viii. Ralph William Stanger SMITH [3568] was born on 1 Mar 1878.

   67 F    ix. Eleanor Kate ULPH-SMITH [3569] was born on 24 Jan 1880. Another name for Eleanor was Nell.

25. Arthur Frank SMITH [3629] (John SMITH12, Martha FRANK9, Samuel7, Peter2, Thomas1) was born on 27 Apr 1853 and died about 193 about age -1660.

General Notes: ARTHUR WAS KNOWN TO BE ALIVE IN 1929; AND LIVING IN St. ALBANS, HERTFORDSHIRE. ...

Arthur married Florence BOLE [12651] [MRIN: 5466].

Children from this marriage were:

+ 68 M    i. William Dent Frank SMITH [12652] died in 1939.

   69 M    ii. Harold Dent SMITH [12653] died in 1916. The cause of his death was killed in action [flying] WW1.

+ 70 M    iii. Gerald Dent SMITH [12654] was born in 1899.

26. Alexander Elliott SMITH [3575] (Joseph SMITH13, Martha FRANK9, Samuel7, Peter2, Thomas1) was born on 30 Jun 1828 and died about 1887 about age 59.

Alexander married Mary HOPE [3577] [MRIN: 2243], daughter of Unknown and Unknown.

Children from this marriage were:

   71 F    i. Lucy Staples Monck SMITH [3578] was born about 185.

   72 M    ii. Alexander Hope SMITH [3580] .

   73 F    iii. Penelope Eldred Elliott SMITH [3582] .

34. Joseph Elliott Johnson SMITH [3573] (Joseph SMITH13, Martha FRANK9, Samuel7, Peter2, Thomas1) was born in 1849 in Nottingham Nottinghamshire England and died in 1934 at age 85.

Joseph married Harriett Edith STANGER [3390] [MRIN: 2103], daughter of Unknown and Unknown. Harriett was born in Sep 1851 in Wisbech Cambridgeshire England and died in 1937 at age 86. Another name for Harriett was Hannah.

The child from this marriage was:

+ 74 M    i. Frederick Stanley SMITH [3396] .

36. Philip Samuel SMITH [3574] (Joseph SMITH13, Martha FRANK9, Samuel7, Peter2, Thomas1) was born in 1853 in Nottingham Nottinghamshire England.

Philip married UNKNOWN [3591] [MRIN: 2242], daughter of Unknown and Unknown.

The child from this marriage was:

   75 F    i. Sarah Winifred Margaret SMITH [3584] .

37. Harriett COLE [3605] (Rebecca SMITH14, Martha FRANK9, Samuel7, Peter2, Thomas1) was born on 9 Mar 1826 in March, Cambridgeshire and died in Independent Meeting House Castle Gate Nottingham Nottinghamshire England.

Harriett married DAWSON [12668] [MRIN: 5472]. DAWSON [12668] was born in Nottingham Nottinghamshire England.

The child from this marriage was:

   76 U    i. DAWSON [12667] .

42. Emily SMITH [3597] (Samuel SMITH15, Martha FRANK9, Samuel7, Peter2, Thomas1) was born on 8 Dec 1826 and died in 1871 at age 45.

Emily married James Pegg HALFORD [3600] [MRIN: 2255], son of Unknown and Unknown. James was born about 1824 in Halford Warwickshire England and died about 1871 about age 47.

Children from this marriage were:

+ 77 F    i. Sarah HALFORD [9082] was born in 1855 and died in 1911 at age 56.

   78 F    ii. Julia HALFORD [9084] died in 1936. Another name for Julia was Judy.

Julia married BROOKS [9474] [MRIN: 4488].

Julia next married Rupert BALDWIN, Jnr. [9087] [MRIN: 4354], son of James Smith BALDWIN [8856] and Ann ELLIOTT [21010]. Rupert was born on 11 May 1856 in Nottingham Nottinghamshire England and died in Jul 1940 at age 84.

+ 79 F    iii. Frances HALFORD [9083] .

   80 F    iv. Charlotte HALFORD [41329] .

   81 M    v. James HALFORD [41330] .

   82 M    vi. Fred HALFORD [41331] .


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